[vladvasiliu]

> As for automatic tiling, I'm a big fan of what Windows is doing, and would love the traditional tiling WMs to iterate on this idea, while recognising floating windows as first-class citizens.

Is there a specific thing you're thinking about, or is it the "zone" style tiling (either the out-of-the-box approach of left / right / corner or the Fancy Zones)?

If it's the basic, I don't know how that could be automated once you're running out of zones.

If it's not automatic, then I think that's a quite different approach. Of course, no one has to like TWMs, but I think there's value in not having to really think how to set up your windows, and just let the WM do its thing instead of moving them around by hand.

However, I also think the concept of a pre-defined layout, combined with the WM remembering which window goes where is interesting. I tried this out at one point on Windows. But after some time I realized that while the zones I'd defined were mostly right, I sometimes wanted to change them. And that's not very straightforward, in that I have to go and change the config and the change now becomes the default. I haven't found a way of manipulating zones (or, ideally, groups of zones) in an ad-hoc manner, like I can with i3. Things like if I increase the size of this window, then its neighbor is reduced by the same amount.

[rollcat]

What I like about Windows' way is that it brought the concept of tiling to the masses, by making it extremely intuitive for beginners (it does roughly what you already meant by moving a window to that half of the screen), AND easy to advance towards being a power user (use win+arrow to tile left/right, etc).

I'm not a Windows user, so I haven't explored what else it's capable of, but that's exactly my idea of a good tiling WM: I don't want to read a man page or tweak a config file, I want it to do what I mean out of the box, and give me a linear return on investment for the time I spend studying the more advanced features.

I'm personally a fan and user of dwm for its simplicity and minimalism, but dwm occupies too much of my attention when all I want is "I want this window on the right, that on the top left, and that one below" - I have to think of masters, nmasters, layouts, all that crap; all while handling the floating windows sucks big time (can't even do it one-handed).

My Hammerspoon config[1] allows me to do that: cmd+opt+left pushes a window in that direction, cmd+opt+ctrl+left grows or shrinks it depending on whether there's space to the left of it, etc. I think it's still very far from ideal, but it's an interesting iteration and an improvement to a system that has no tiling at all, but excellent floating.

[1]: https://github.com/rollcat/dotfiles/blob/master/.hammerspoon...