[throwaway0x7E6]

individualism, liberty and self-reliance are pillars of the modern developed world, which is the best place to live in all the history of mankind.

and we have plenty of examples from the last century of what do you get if you adopt the opposite values

[peoplefromibiza]

> individualism, liberty and self-reliance are pillars of the modern developed world

Jean-Jacques Rousseau strongly disagrees with you.

I believe you confused individualism with autonomy and free will.

a society of individuals can easily become atomized and paradoxically uniform when “every citizen, being assimilated to all the rest, is lost in the crowd“.

-- Alexis de Tocqueville

a true pillar of modern developed World

[teh64]

Self reliance is definitely not part of the modern developed world. Countries are more interconnected than ever, and almost any person, unless they live in the wilderness in Alaska and do everything themselves, relies on other people to live. The pillar of the modern developed world is specialization and trade, not self-reliance.