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by bitwize 1477 days ago
I once worked in a shop where Exchange was configured not to send text equivalent with HTML emails. Even messages sent in plain text would be munged by Exchange into unreadable HTML hash. These may in fact be the default settings. I emailed the sysadmin asking that they be changed, and his only response was "Try using an email client from this century."

Mutt is NOT suited for the professional world. The professional world has standardized on Outlook and Exchange. If you use something different, no one is going to change anything for your prima donna ass if your emails turn out unreadable. Use Outlook for your company mail.

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I have not found any issues using other email clients (including mutt) in our exchange environment. In fact one thing that can be said about outlook is that every single user hates it and their webclient is even worse.
Is the “professional world” a place where you’re paid for your work? Because I’ve been paid for my work for 35 years, and I’ve never touched or dealt with either of those programs. I’ve used Mutt for about 20 of those, and nobody’s complained about my emails, nor have I had any trouble reading others’. As other replies to you have pointed out, your particular experience is not definitive of the standards of some “professional world”. In fact, from your description, it sounds like you’ve been working in some pretty unprofessional places.
> I once worked in a shop where Exchange was configured not to send text equivalent with HTML emails.

You can just plug in an external program to convert HTML to plaintext; IIRC elinks/lynx/w3m can do it.

> "Try using an email client from this century."

Outlook launched in 1997, so obviously that's out.

> Mutt is NOT suited for the professional world. The professional world has standardized on Outlook and Exchange.

Yeah, no; a large chunk of the professional world lives in Microsoft's little bubble, but plenty of companies live outside of it quite happily.

I understand the willignness to do everything in command line. But it's just dogma. Seriously, using so many external tools to deal with such a dumb and common thing like sending/read a mail doesn't have to be so complex. It's useless complexity for nothing. As i recall, mutt has been designed to handle local Unix mail. Not to deal with web providers as the majority of non-nerd people use today. It's a significant effort to configure the tool for this common use case, the soft originally has not been designed for that hense the useless effort to adapt it.

It's not my hobby anymore to spend time around this. I just use the app provided by my telecom provider to send SMS, i haven't configured an obscure TUI tool to interface my local 4G antenna to just tell my wife i'm well. Email is the same. Life is short hence the idea that using mutt is just a nerd hobby today. You can't advocate common mortal to go this way it's just outdated and overall ridiculous.

If its your hobby, well, i'm happy for you

it's not dogma, it's a preference.