[klvino]

Objective analysis. Cuban, Musk, and others have developed fandoms yielding coverage that portrays them as 'saints' (an overly positive light). With fandoms comes some degree of polarization as non-fans present their counter-points.

Cuban found there is margin that can be squeezed in the pharma market due to being a high margin product with inefficient distribution. He moved on a revenue opportunity, plain and simple.

[s1artibartfast]

Fans seem to exaggerate a mild good into a great good, but the anti-fans take a mild good and claim it is a great evil.

The end result is the anti-fans come off delusional and out of touch with reality.

[skinnymuch]

Isn’t that how the fans seem too? I’m not sure that’s always true either. All that tunnel and loop stuff by Musk and Boring company are pretty awful.

[s1artibartfast]

Fans can certainly do the inverse with a mild evil and exaggerating it into a great good, I just don't think it is the case with Cuban's option for low price drugs. It is hard to follow the mental gymnastics that twist people getting a cheaper option to buy drugs into evil, even if it isn't perfect. The worst possible outcome is the drugs aren't cheap and people don't buy them. No harm, no foul.

Regarding Musk's loop and Boring company, I would also consider those a mild good. Hyped to high hell, but I don't see how that ever becomes bad.

What is awful about cheaper all electric tunneling rigs? If if meets some of the claims, then cool, if it doesn't, then it is neutral.

I am honestly curious why you think it is pretty awful?

[skinnymuch]

Hm I don’t know about tunneling rigs. I assume that’s one of their own made things for their tunnels? A search only shows a couple of things about that and it appears to be all internal stuff. Nothing for the public or to be sold to businesses.

One major issue with their rigs would be the future impact of their tiny tunneling. They tunnel such small holes that make the actual end products weak. Their Vegas tunnel are so small. God forbid there’s an emergency while there’s a lot of traffic. Good chance lives will be lost.

Vs the amount of results for their main product they’ve done and sold that isn’t a blow torch: the Vegas loop. That’s what I was talking about. It seems to be an awful idea that is widely seen as a disappointment now. Their LA plan was by far much stupider. They were trying to do a tiny fraction of the traffic that an electric underground metro could do while being much less energy efficient since trains are more efficient than a lot of cars.

There’s a boatload of issues that make the tunnel awful and nothing more than a way to push Teslas more. All I can find are negative takes of the Vegas loop. I can’t add anything others aren’t saying.

It’s hard for me to see how the entire thing isn’t a scam to push Tesla. It’s mine boggling that this isn’t getting the same treatment as Morbius the film (intense loud continuous mockery). Then I remember the insane amount of fans and the push to keep everything Elon positive.