[qiskit]

> It's about national security. A fab is necessary for national security

How does germany funding a foreign/non-german company's fab part of national security? What about expelling a foreign occupying force? If the germans cared about national security, shouldn't they be looking in that first?

If germany was funding a german company's fab, it would be national security. What germany is doing is paying tribute to a dominating foreign empire. No different than india sending their goods to britain during the colonial period.

[TulliusCicero]

> What about expelling a foreign occupying force? If the germans cared about national security, shouldn't they be looking in that first?

*looks over at Ukraine*

Yes, I'm sure the Germans are eager to expel American troops right now.

[qiskit]

> looks over at Ukraine

What? It's only wrong for russia to occupy a foreign nation?

> Yes, I'm sure the Germans are eager to expel American troops right now.

If the germans were smart, they'd take this as an opportunity to liberate themselves. Besides what do they care? Trading one foreign master for another.

[dqpb]

The US and Germany are allies. In fact, I believe “German” is the largest ancestry group in the US.

Besides which, it’s extremely common for entities to invest in mutually beneficial agreements with other entities.

[qiskit]

> The US and Germany are allies.

An ally doesn't firebomb a nation, murder thousands of innocent people and forcibly occupy it. Germany is a vassal.

> In fact, I believe “German” is the largest ancestry group in the US.

Who cares? We are not a german nation. We are an anglo nation. Germans don't have much political power in the US. If they did, we would have been allied with germany during ww2.

[astrange]

Australia is an Anglo nation that thinks they're us. We're a German nation that thinks we're British.

The state we occupied doesn't exist anymore unless you think we're going to re-invade Germany and Japan from our bases there.

[qiskit]

> Australia is an Anglo nation that thinks they're us.

No. Australians think they are british.

> We're a German nation that thinks we're British.

No. We are an anglo nation. We speaking german right now? Don't think so.

> The state we occupied doesn't exist anymore unless you think we're going to re-invade Germany and Japan from our bases there.

Re-invade? For what? We already are occupying them.

Yours is the most bizarre and nonsensical comment I've read in a while.

[colordrops]

This idea that policy should be set based on a grossly oversimplified wrapping up of a huge surface area of agreements into the term "ally" and vague notions of ethnic similarity needs to die.

It gives the ruling class a mechanism to excuse war crimes of our supposed "allies" and drop bombs on supposed "enemies" for perceived minor infractions.

[dqpb]

I agree, and this is not an argument I would normally make.

But I think it’s the quality of response the parent deserved, given their ridiculously hyperbolic framing of “a foreign occupying force”.