[thow34wqway]

When companies are losing top talent they are forced to allow work from home ? Company ask people to leave who don't like their in office policy. Sure many people will stay but not the talented ones. They just quit to companies who allows Work From Home. Its just a matter of time company which does not allow WFH is filled with mediocre people.

[PraetorianGourd]

I would argue that you are over-estimating the impact of “raw talent” and under-estimating the impact of team cohesion.

[lumost]

Different people work different ways. While I miss the ability to motivate a sense of urgency while in the office, there were also many tasks that were purely performative.

When in the office, I had discussions, meetings, and presentations which were all geared mainly to support the idea of the office culture over it's deliverable results. While I see people slacking more while remote, they also aren't creating busy work.

We'll see how it shakes out over the next few years. I suspect that remote teams will have an easier time with recruitment and retention, while being slightly more productive than in-office teams. In-office teams will probably be slightly more innovative by virtue of colocation with non-remote teams and a semi-forced need to do "something" with the time.

[runlevel1]

I've been missing the number of great ideas that would come up during lunchtime chats and while hanging out in the office kitchen.

I'm a big proponent of remote work, but I haven't yet found a way to recreate those experiences over video chat.

[CrashedSandal]

I thought many companies had weekly "chit-chat" meetings over video chat for just hanging around and doing nothing ? My place doesn't have it and we are not a place that welcomes or listens to any kind of ideas so they never cared about that.

[lumost]

Often these are poorly attended, for better or worse the office forces people together for a set period of time. Even out of boredom some folks will come up with ideas, when at home you can just cruise HN or do something else entirely.

[toomuchtodo]

I would argue you’re ignoring tens of billions of dollars in value at remote first orgs. Team cohesion in person has been demonstrated to be overrated, not just at remote first orgs, but economy wide with record productivity during a 2.5 year pandemic. The data is pretty clear on this imho.

[lazide]

Record productivity followed by record burnout, near as I can tell.

[runlevel1]

Perhaps, but it's hard to disentangle the contribution of remote work from the general state of the world on that burnout.

[France_is_bacon]

Depends now how actually talented the raw talent is.

Tom Brady, Wayne Gretsky, Michael Jordon, Larry Bird, Kobe Bryant, Joe Montana, LaBron James. Actual top-of-the-line talent drives everything. Sure, Kobe Bryant would not win against another team if he was the only person on his side - 5 against 1, but that is not the case. While total talent is great in all positions, the super talented can't be over-estimated. Mozart. Beethoven, Einstein. Raw talent is not nothing.