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by Matl 1479 days ago
> selling Windows laptops gets harder and harder the further Apple gets ahead

That's Apple's marketing but the 12th Gen P chips are perfectly capable of keeping up with Apple on the performance side and AMD's likely to be able to compete on the power consumption side as well. Yes, x86 is likely to never match ARM on battery life, but I believe they can be reasonably close for it not to be an issue.
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procinct 1479 days ago
It would be nice if they could get close in terms of battery. Every windows laptop I’ve ever had including my current one I use for work has had a battery life of around 3 or 4 hours. Compared to my MacBook Air which can easily seem to go over 24.
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pc86 1479 days ago
I have an older work laptop but a nearly brand new (comparatively) battery that's about a year, maybe 18 months old. If I'm actually using my laptop, it will last maybe an hour or two. I might get it to last 3-4 if I just have email up with the screen dimmed.

Not sure if it's Windows, too much work surveillance-ware, or just HP being garbage, but my M1 Mac will last twice as long as I've ever needed it to without getting plugged in. Even my older Intel MBP lasts most of the day.

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Matl 1479 days ago
I am honestly a bit shocked at the low numbers you and parent are reporting. I have not used Windows in a long time but Linux is generally assumed to be less power efficient on laptops and yet I have no problem getting 7-9 hours out of my year old ZenBook 13 OLED.

That's still nowhere near what you get on a MacBook Air but perfectly usable imo.

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Lio 1478 days ago
My experience with Linux, Ubuntu and Fedora on HP EliteBook and Dell XPS13 respectively is similar to the Windows numbers posted above.

My 2014 MBP13 still gets better life than my daily driver XPS13 9370.

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ceeplusplus 1479 days ago
That's exactly the problem though. One OEM can match Apple in performance, and the other in power, but none in both power and performance.
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sliken 1479 days ago
The competition is improving:

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amds-ryzen-7-6800u-is-35-more-...

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Matl 1479 days ago
My point was AMD's Ryzen 7000 is likely to be able to do both really soon, while Intel's 12th gen can match/even exceed it performance wise now.
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pishpash 1479 days ago
You forgot about price. There is a lot of low-end work that doesn't even need an Air, for $500.
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