[chongli]

No, you can't. There are no dark patterns, ads, or spam in macOS. The worst you could say is that it has "terrible UX." I would then respond: compared to what?

In my view, the only desktop-grade OS I prefer over the modern Mac is MacOS 9. It was much easier to use and understand from top to bottom. On the other hand, it lacked a lot of features I've come to take for granted (pre-emptive multitasking, multithreading, protected memory, support for modern hardware, gestures, etc).

I do really miss the spatial Finder though.

[heavyset_go]

There are plenty of dark patterns in macOS. For example, macOS will trick users into thinking that the apps they want to use are either broken or malicious if developers didn't pay Apple $100 a year and Notarize apps. macOS has increasingly become a platform to sell iCloud subscriptions, as well.

[seabriez]

No "dark" patterns he says. Even after all the revelations, iFads just keep mindlessly worship Crapple. When in reality:

https://www.scss.tcd.ie/doug.leith/apple_google.pdf

"iOS sends the MAC addresses of nearby devices, e.g. other handsets and the home gateway, to Apple together with their GPS location. Users have no opt out from this and currently there are few, if any, realistic options for preventing this data sharing."

Power corrupts and when one company wields too much of it, shit will hit the fan.

[api]

I think the argument here is that Apple is better in this area than Microsoft or Google, not that Apple is great.

Better than Microsoft or Google on privacy is not a high bar.

[seabriez]

I just gave you as a matter of fact statement where Apple sends private information to their servers, and your response is going to be that "Apple is better." Wow, you are an Apple sycophant. As George Carlin said: "Imagine a person of average intelligence, and then know that there are even dumber people than that." Why would someone be so compelled to defend a corporation, even when it's clearly doing so many things wrong. Slave Labor.. Check, Monopolistic Practices .. Check, Shady Deals ... Check.

[seabriez]

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[api]

Yes Apple does push iCloud a bit but it seems fairly simple to opt out and after you do it stops bugging you, or at least that has been my experience.