[soziawa]

> Look no further than Signal's supboenas and how they respond to them. With all the information they hold about an account. Which is just the creation date and last connection date. https://signal.org/bigbrother/eastern-virginia-grand-jury/

Signal's subpoenas have always left a sour taste in my mouth. I just can't believe that they are getting so few, at least some cases they'll just send the standard letter out and will try to get something. Having no list of how many they have rejected would at least increase my confidence in them a bit.

But the bigger issue is, that they data they provide is just too good to be true for the majority of users. Signal has a push token for the vast majority of accounts otherwise they wouldn't be able to send out push notifications on iOS and would waste at least some battery on devices with Google Play services installed. The subpoenas always seem to affect people who have an Android phone without Google Play services installed. In my eyes is too strange of a coincidence to be true.

Signal does at least a bad job of explaining what kind of data they keep on an average user.

[sgjohnson]

> Signal has a push token for the vast majority of accounts otherwise they wouldn't be able to send out push notifications on iOS

It's technically possible for them to not know which phone numbers correspond to which devices and tokens.

[Kinrany]

If they have the ability to send notifications, it's irrelevant how exactly that works: they can let a third party do that through them.

[nicce]

Not to mention that cryptocoin integration attempt to cash out with privacy reputation. It just left so sour taste as well. What else they are ready to do?