[Avamander]

> I think the point people are trying to make [...] not sending email from that domain immediately to spam, just because it isn't a well established and trusted IP address.

Yes, and I'm saying what's the prequisite for that to happen. As long as it's okay (which it currently is) to send unsigned mail, IP addresses have larger weight. DKIM needs more deployment for that to change.

There's absolutely no way that IP-based reputation schemes will be deprecated before alternatives are viable. Sure it would be nice for a few people here, but no, won't happen before the ecosystem improves.

> Alternatively - come up with something akin to D&B registration system so people can attest that they won't engage in spammy behavior.

Already exists. That too gets abused.

[ghshephard]

Oh - that is interesting - would you mind sharing what the registration system is?