[andrew_]

I get your point. Is that an excuse for HN to give into the same? If I wanted outrage and ranting on personalities, there's a lot of other places I could go for that. I came here a few years back because it was a less hostile, more objective community. Genuinely bums me out that we're giving this a pass now just because of the subject matter.

[zarriak]

I get your point but at this point there isn’t any place that can constructively hold this conversation. I still this type of conversations can happen but it is difficult because of the inherent biases against and for the people conveying the messages that is going to be much stronger in the cohort that uses HN.