[audiometry]

Listening to interviews with hardcore gang members, a common thread they mention is how dangerous and powerful these cop gangs are. Especially in the horrific LA County Jail system.

I don't know how you eliminate this culture from the cops other than mass firings and massive turnover of their entire workforce. That'll never happen.

Really gross situation and I feel bad for all the people victimized as a result of it.

[Tangurena4]

I attended a police academy in the Los Angeles metro area back in the early 1980s [0]. The instructors complained about LAPD and LASD frequently [1]. This means that the problems that are still complained about were happening at least as early as the 1970s.

I think the Rampart scandal would be illustrative of how deep is the problem of corruption in the LA policing community. As part of the clean-up, prosecutors were asking the courts to vacate every conviction that the corrupt police officers had worked on - it wasn't possible to separate the false from factual testimonies.

Notes:

0 - I had run out of money for my (engineering) university program so I dropped out. Amusingly enough, the courses comprising the police academy (which was part of a community college) counted as humanities electives when I returned to finish that degree program.

1 - LAPD & LASD had their own academies. Any students that graduated from this community college program would still have to attend those department's academies.

2 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampart_scandal

> CRASH officers would get together at a bar near Dodger Stadium in Echo Park to drink and celebrate shootings. Supervisors handed out plaques to shooters, containing red or black playing cards. A red card indicated a wounding and a black card indicated a killing, which was considered more prestigious. Pérez testified that at least one Rampart lieutenant attended these celebrations.

> Rampart officers wore tattoos of the CRASH logo, a skull with a cowboy hat encircled with poker cards depicting the "dead man's hand", aces and eights. Police-Gang tattoos are not new.

[landemva]

>> I don't know how you eliminate this culture from the cops

Remove the doctrine of government immunity (basically created out of thin air by USSC) to allow private suits against rogue government employees to be heard. The cure is to asset strip these criminals.

BLM complaints could have been broadly corrected by removal of government immunity, but nobody talked about real fixes. As it is now, there is little incentive to screen out bad employees because 'government immunity'.

[Teever]

> I don't know how you eliminate this culture from the cops other than mass firings and massive turnover of their entire workforce. That'll never happen.

Vigilante action using drones.

If someone eliminated an entire gang in a simultaneous and public strike coinciding with a data dump of evidence proving the malfeasance of this gang and other LEO gangs I imagine the effect would be quite chilling on other LEO gangs and may spurn higher levels of LE to actually take care of the problem instead of ignoring it.

[Sargos]

Honestly they might just love that as it'd give them broad 9/11 style support and they could break the rules more openly to "fight cop killers"