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by hn_neverguess 1482 days ago
> out of how many times?

Let's do the math. YC has had 378 exits out of 4314 investments [0], so roughly 9% so far. Most investments have been made recently enough that those companies are still baking, so let's double that number to 18%.

The only other number of you need is how likely you are to get into YC. Their overall acceptance rate is 1.75% per application[1], so if you apply three times with the same startup, you get to 5.25%. That figure includes literally everyone and their grandmother, so let's assume you're deciding between a startup and FAANG. Well, FAANG's acceptance in late stages of interviews is around 15% [2], so your YC acceptance chances are around 33%.

Combine 33% and 18%, and you get 6% per lifecycle of a startup. If you try that with four startups, you're at 24%.

Is 24% a good deal? Well, it depends on the upside and the opportunity cost. Let's assume it took you 16 years to build 4 failed startups. In that time period, you could have earned around $5m at FAANG ($300k/year). Of course, things could have also gone wrong (bad manager, your screwed up, layoffs), so let's peg that chance at 80%, which gives the opportunity cost of $4m.

The average YC exit is $24m (not taking into account the whales, which ballooned the overall YC portfolio to over $300B) - the $24m seems like a pretty conservative take [3]. That yields almost $6m upside, not including dilution. Hard to guess what the average dilution is, but I bet you it's higher than 33%, which would have been the breakeven point. Darn it, startups suck! :)

[0] https://www.cbinsights.com/investor/y-combinator

[1] https://www.ycombinator.com/investors

[2] https://www.teamblind.com/post/Whats-fangs-interview-selecti...

[3] https://www.shawnngtq.com/projects/y-combinator-startups-ana....

3 comments

We might be posting on YC's site, but there are a whole lotta startups beyond YC funded ones. For all of this work, this math relies upon an incomplete data set.
But you have to include dilution. You’re speaking as a founder - not an employee.

If I join any of the BigTech companies (FAANG - Netflix + Microsoft), as a mid level developer, I’m guaranteed to get a $1 million+ four year offer and I don’t have to wait on an exit and pray for a successful exit. I can sell my RSUs at every vesting event. The average startup takes 7 years to exit. I would have also been hypothetically missing out on one of the greatest bull markers and seen my earlier grants more than double over the last five years.

I left out Netflix because even before the stock tanked, it should have never been grouped with the 1 trillion+ BigTech companies.

From [2], is this post really your source?

> Capital One / Eng NewHere1

> 23 Comments

> How many people interview vs get the job ?

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> My guess /estimates (avg company wide)

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Or some other post behind the login wall?

A bad reference is probably worse than no reference.