[golover721]

Unfortunately I have found that a really good Product Manager is an extremely rare thing. However the best organizations and teams I have worked on have always had strong product management. There seems to be a general lack of education and training on how to be a product manager. Too often folks from other disciplines, such as Engineering transfer into the role with no training whatsoever and end up doing a terrible job with it.

[opportune]

I don’t think some thing can be trained. Product managers usually need to do the most varied things in any organization so they just need to be quick learners/able to “understand everything” while making good decisions and having good taste. Certs and degrees don’t really help that. In fact “Product Management Certificate” sounds like the biggest smell imagineable for working with a PM

[germinalphrase]

To bridge off of this comment, has anyone found a particular Product Management resource or training that is an effective on-ramp to doing the job well?

[fudgy]

Inspired: https://www.amazon.com/INSPIRED-Create-Tech-Products-Custome...

Empowered: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08LPKRD5L/

Good Strategy/Bad Strategy: https://www.amazon.com/Good-Strategy-Bad-Richard-Rumelt/dp/1...