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by tomcat27 1473 days ago
> You might mean 4 "doublings"

Rate of change: Enrollment increased by 4 times. Population increased by 100 times.

> How do you double elite universities?

Doubling elite universities: I mean more outreach from let's say T10 with next 10-20. This doesn't happen.

Ex: Top 5 won't cite papers written by someone in the middle. It happens but that's quite rare.

Ex: Faculty recruitment does not propagates from bottom ranking institution to top ranking institution. It's super rare.

Ex: Research collaborations are very clubby.

> It's more like we have an eliteness gradient (T10, T20, etc...) and the masses together decide what's "elite enough".

Masses opinion doesn't count. Eliteness is determined by elite. Consider an elite club exists at the beginning. Every 5 years new members are inducted into the elite club. Their opinion matters way more than everyone's simply because they are elite.

In most departments, the state of the art is a qualitative measurement. Something is great because a bunch of great people think it's great. There isn't a better approach anyway. But that comes with bad biases.

Ex: It's rare to have a Supreme Court justice coming from outside Harvard and Yale.

Ex: Some departments in Harvard would never hire someone as faculty just because they aren't from Harvard, Yale or a couple of other places.

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> Rate of change: Enrollment increased by 4 times. Population increased by 100 times.

But 20,000 / 1,500 is 13x.

Not sure how that slipped. Sorry.