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by portmanteaufu 1485 days ago
What a peculiar screed. I don't see anything in the post that validates the title. The author used Kagi for four months before the open beta and seemed to like it.

> A survey was put out a couple months before this announcement, asking users what they'd pay. I said 7$/month considering the current proficiency of the service. To read they went with 10$/month with no justification or reveal of the results just makes me feel completely ignored...

The author understands that it was a survey, but is upset that their personal input wasn't taken as the final decision?

It's fine to disagree with the tone of the beta announcement. It's reasonable to think that $10/month is too expensive. But "paid search engines are dead on arrival" is a big swing and there's nothing here to back it up. I'm trying out Kagi as part of the open beta, and so far I'm liking the experience.

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I agree with you about that line in particular coming across as very entitled. This wasn't a scheduling survey for a post-work happy hour spot, it's a business trying to survive. I'm sure they took the author's $7 a month (really, $3 more is not _that_ much) suggestion into account.

The complaint about the call to child protection similarly was misplaced.

And just to put my cards on the table: I ponied up for a year of Kagi this morning when I got the announcement. I'm not sure if Kagi will be around in a year, but that's okay. Over the past few months, I've only had a single search query where Google outperformed Kagi (an odd one: "why did we all stop using ringtones"), and I like most of the features that Kagi has over Google. So I'm willing to put some money down to support a new entrant.

Author here: I guess it wasn't explicit enough! The thing to back it up is Kagi taught me paid-for search engines are no better than ad-paid search engines. I thought it was clear when I wrote this but I'm sorry it wasn't

I'm not upset it wasn't taken into consideration, I'm disappointed there's zero transparency! It's too bad the tone of the writing comes off as upset rather than disappointed, that wasn't my intention...!

Edit: I've clarified things and changed the title to "Overall disappointed with Kagi but lessons learned" to better show my intent. The original title was for sure a silly exaggeration and I have no problem admitting this :)

Good on you for taking feedback so well

However, it seems the title is still called "Paid Search Engines are Dead on Arrival"? Sorry I have no clue how to navigate this lmao