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> So you're familiar with Six Sigma then? Value stream mapping? TPS? > W.E. Deming? Martin Fowler? There's more to DevOps than deployments > and CI/CD.

>> None of those have any relationship to DevOps.

Deming. I think you mean maybe that Deming has less of a relationship to SRE (Google style). The DevOps Cafe guy wears a Deming t-shirt and talks about Deming all the time. Maybe he has denounced Deming for some reason?

Value stream mapping. This has been brought up in at least one talk at DevOps Days.

Six Sigma. There's some obvious overlaps if you look it up.

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Thank you. I didn't want to get into a whole "thing" because the parent just doesn't know what they're talking about and I can't teach them everything in a comment thread, but suffice to say that Gene Kim and Jez Humble would agree with me, and that anyone who wants to know more can look up books and blogs by them.