[guerrilla]

I'm not confusing anything but you're certainly muddying the water. The USSR lost the Winter War. Period. It's well known and not remotely controversial. They intended to conquer all of Finland and failed. The end. Soviet losses were 5 times greater than Finnish losses. The whole thing is what made Hitler believe he could succeed on what became the Eastern Front.

[mardifoufs]

I totally agree on that. The USSR was completely halted and lost in a humiliating war. There's no debate here, and the insane Soviet losses speak for themselves. What I was saying is that it's still not really clear if Stalin actually wanted to take over Finland. Or just thought he could easily steamroll them and take the territory that was in dispute.