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You see, when you mention those things (Mediawiki, CakePHP monstrosities, Drupal/WordPress/Joomla), I don't equate that to professional development at all. And no, I've never run across that. Maybe this is why my view is the way it is. I've never had to deal with the above. And I honestly don't see how a professional could work in that environment (I mean, honestly, how does someone choose to work with Joomla, and then have the gall to complain about it). The majority of people I deal with (the very large majority) are professionals in their craft. This means they aren't just PHP developers, but when they write PHP, it's professional level code. It's what you'd find being written for any other language. I find it odd that every time someone rags on PHP, it's generally always involves WordPress, or Drupal, or Joomla, or something akin to that. And when I read that, I understand why someone might feel that way. But then Drupal and WordPress or Joomla aren't fair examples of anything I've written in PHP. In fact, a part of me has the hutzpah to think that if you decided to use them as your tools to do something, it's your own damn fault. So yeah. Maybe their is a large population I'm not involved with, that I know nothing about. I can't say your examples strike a chord with me. I don't have a hate for developing with Joomla because I never wanted to go there. And what little work I've done with WordPress was painful because of the architecture of WordPress, not PHP. I'm just tired of very HN post on PHP has to result in retards (not necessarily you are mgkismal) coming out to post childish comments, or how everyone has to pepper their comments with weak shit like "Oh, I'm such a great programmer, and if I had to use PHP -- not that I have to, thank GOD for THAT! -- I'd polish that turd, LOL!" It gets tiring. And it's insulting. Not because they are insulting a language I use. Rather, it's insulting because the community here encourages it. It's accepted. And I like to HN is filled with smart people who will judge me based on the results of my work and not the fact that fact that I didn't use a Craftsman hammer, but instead a plain wooden one that goes the job done equally well. Sorry for the rant. |