[BeetleB]

A no-config Emacs has a rapid startup time - it's instant on my PC.

> or an acceptance of “fit your workflow around Emacs” than it is truly a solution, which would be to reduce startup times.

I don't see a problem with this. Emacs is a general purpose platform, and it's silly to expect really fast startup times if you're using it as a general purpose platform. People aren't expecting Linux to have an instant startup time if you have a large number of services running - why expect it from Emacs?

[dotancohen]

Actually, reducing OS startup time used to be a goal. I think that stock Ubuntu on run-of-the-mill hardware (spinning rust) was down to 14 seconds bios-to-login at some point when they made an effort on that front.

[BeetleB]

And stock Emacs load time is virtually instant.