[The_Colonel]

For every professional React developer, there's probably ten people who consider React cool and something to learn in the future, while they haven't even heard about Svelte or Vite.

[kortilla]

Doubtful anyone thinks react is cool at this point. It’s more of a thing you just need to use for your job. It’s like Java at this point.

[Gigachad]

HN is a bubble of negativity. I see juniors light up when seeing react and trying it out for the first time. And I don’t know anyone irl who dreads react.

[miketery]

Agreed, but people (read: I) do dread some of the critical tooling / configs around it (e.g. bundlers). Regardless its amazing how quickly you can spin up a feature rich app these days.

[recursive]

> And I don’t know anyone irl who dreads react.

There's not a lot of us, but we're definitely out here.

[yreg]

Stack Overflow Developer Survey 2021:

- 69% of respondents love React, 31% dread React

- 25% of developers who are not using React would like to use it (1st place among web frameworks)

https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021

[naikrovek]

that survey seems like more of a survey of the hive-mind and less of a survey of real opinions.

I recall one year there were SO MANY people saying that they loved Rust (enough to make it the most loved language in the survey) but the number of people who answered that they were actually using Rust was far, far smaller. something like 10% of the number of people who claim to love it have ever used it for any purpose.

I think someone could easily cherry pick results from this survey to back any opinion they have, completely independent of any actual "truth."

[yreg]

So you are saying it represents which technologies the community considers cool?

Because that's exactly the context in which I'm quoting it :)

[naikrovek]

no I'm saying it isn't a good view into what people actually like. it's a view into what they want the world to be like.

people respond to surveys according to what they want the survey results to be, and not how things actually are.

[mountainriver]

Isn’t that a lot of what’s cool technology is?

[dtolnay]

This is a misunderstanding of how the "loved" part of the survey works.

> something like 10% of the number of people who claim to love it have ever used it for any purpose

"Loved" specifically measures what fraction of people currently using the technology say they desire to continue using it next year. In the survey there is no such thing as non-users claiming to love it.

[mountainriver]

Yeah probably because people have limited time and corporations don’t just let you use whatever language generally