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by davesailer 1478 days ago
Check out the video. "Clifford Stoll talk from 1999" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvqFo-EU9W0 "The man is certainly eccentric."

"This is a video of a presentation given by Clifford Stoll at a Sequent User's Group 'Enterprise Solutions Summit' in Portland, OR. I happen to find this program on a DVD as I was cleaning out some old boxes and figured it was probably the only surviving copy of this presentation in existence. Of all the programs, presentations and lectures I've attended over a long career in the IT field, this presentation has always stuck with me and I figured it would be a shame if this were lost to the world forever. I hope you enjoy the presentation as much now as I did then." -- William Danger Newman

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I started out being rather afraid I'd taken this article & Clifford seriously, but it was a good talk, with strong values in it, & that resonated with me.

I continue to feel like computing is a deep rich pool, but that consumerization has us all splashing around in the kiddy pool. There's a lack of candor, dishonestly, that we work so hard to hide complexity.

There was a neandering & fun diatrabe I ran into called "Make Me Think"[1], that has gorgeous & beautiful simple pictures of how we've tackled complexity over the years: making the user juggle it all, now with user-centered design we try to pre-plan & take on the complexity from a design level so to users everything "just works." But we've kind of robbed the world of learning, of mastery, of adaptability. Stroll portrays computing as shallow, as an activity akin to a slideshow, and happening upon this post feels serendipitous similar.

Having watched the talk, the knowledge versus information aspect seems like the core axis though, the push for deepness in our cybermedias. It loops quickly back around to my other comment in this thread, on expecting more overlays, more peer-based context building, more wayposting to have emerged[2], and instead, a tyranny of flatness having become utterly dominating.

[1] https://ralphammer.com/make-me-think/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30269350 (67 points, 3 months, 24comments) (and previously with less success https://hn.algolia.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fralphammer.com%2Fmak...)

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31542561