[Gordonjcp]

> After that, just copy the playbook from the Netherlands

The Netherlands has a ridiculously dense population and is completely flat.

It's only a good model for other places with a ridiculous population density and pancake-flat geography.

You couldn't apply the Netherlands model to, for example, Scotland.

[rglullis]

Flatlands or not, it does not mean that cars are the only reasonable mode of transportation. Even if you insist of trying to solve a social problem with technology, it would make more sense for those living in hilly areas to push for electric bikes than self-driving cars.

[Gordonjcp]

I don't see what problem self-driving cars solve, either.

Electric bikes are too slow and inefficient, and require expensive hard-to-make components that depend on conflict minerals.

[rglullis]

Slow and inefficient compared to what? And what is the difference in battery technology from an E-Bike compared to Tesla?