[pdx6]

I agree, the western side is hardly a hellscape. I guess don't let the tourists know!

San Francisco is really 2 different cities rather than 11 counties. West side (where I live) has some minor problems but otherwise offers the best mix of culture, places to eat, parks, and transit. Downtown is rife with problems and if someday it does get cleaned up, it will wonderful since the right density and transit is there.

[newbie2020]

I need a detailed list of places please! BART only gives me access to the less desirable parts of the city

[pdx6]

BART goes plenty of nice places! If you get out at 16th or 24th, Valencia St one block over has lots of nice shops and bars. Head over to Folsom and 24th for lots of cheap shopping in what is like a little Mexico. Go see a show at New Mission / Alamo and get your lunch delivered to your seat while you watch a movie. Or make a reservation at Foreign Cinema and have a fancy dinner in a former theater.

Get out at Glen Park and and there's a the quaint Glen Park Village.

Get out at Balboa Park and head over a few blocks up Ocean for another neighborhood row of shops.

Or get on Muni Metro and take the KLM to West Portal. Or keep riding to Stonestown and do your shopping at Target, Wholefoods, or TJs, then go see a movie at the Regal.

Hop on the N and ride all the way out to La Playa and get yourself a cup of coffee and a sandwich at Java Beach. Then walk around the Sunset and see just how sleepy the western side is!