[ddingus]

That appears to be ramping up again. One of the people on a project I'm working with them on just had theirs stolen.

And it could total their car!

People driving used Hondas may find out insurance won't cover, or will want to just total used cars due to the converter being worth more than the paper value of the car, despite a used market valuing the car much higher!

Cost $1,200 to $2,400 to replace and due to the last round of this theft happening, the legal requirements are now stiff. One can't just go get one of these and install anymore. Has to be done in a shop, and there is traceability on everything. Expensive.

Yet the thieves can still somehow trade the metals.

[bluGill]

> Yet the thieves can still somehow trade the metals.

It isn't hard to melt down the metals and extract the valuable ones. A proper factory can do a much better job (get more of the valuable metals out), but it is something I could profitably do in my backyard over a fire. I haven't looked into the details of refining platinum, but I doubt is is much different from any other metal. (when I looked into it I lived in an area with a lot of iron deposits, I've since moved and no longer have access to iron ore so that potential hobby is dead to me)

Once you have raw metals you can claim any source you want. Just form them into a ring and say you were saving it for your anniversary, but your wife left you - I'm sure you can come up with other ways to make it look like got a legal source.

[hotpotamus]

I don't understand the legal requirement thing. In my state, I'm pretty sure I could put a straight pipe down there and I'd never have an issue. In fact, I'd probably look into it if it happened to me. That said, I know my state is pretty lax about that sort of thing. Curious how it's actually enforced in others.

[sokoloff]

You might need to install a downstream O2 sensor simulator to prevent an OBD2 failure to verify function of the (now missing) converter, but those are readily available for off-road use as I’m sure would be your application. ;)

[hotpotamus]

Yeah, the cheater plugs are part of the deal. I'm pretty sure they're just fixed resistors so it's not complicated.

[sokoloff]

Usually a fixed resistor to simulate the heater and a square wave oscillator to simulate the O2 sensor output cycling between lean and rich.

[sokoloff]

The law changed to prohibit the sale of used converters for installation or the installation of used on a different car, but I can still buy a new one and install it in my driveway if I want. (You might have a law in your state to prevent that, I guess.)

[chasd00]

my neighbor had their's stolen in the parking lot of a grocery store while they were shopping.

[ddingus]

It can be done in a couple minutes using an aggressive saw.