[Sohcahtoa82]

Whenever someone complains about Python's indentation-as-syntax, my mind translates it as "this programmer writes terribly formatted code". If your code is properly formatted, then indentation will never be a problem.

Copy/pasting large blocks, yeah, you can mess it up. But any editor worth using will let you select several lines of text and hit Tab or Shift-Tab to add/remove an indentation level, so fixing it only takes a couple seconds.

[philwelch]

> But any editor worth using will let you select several lines of text and hit Tab or Shift-Tab to add/remove an indentation level

...or has equivalent functionality that doesn't require the mouse ;)

[Sohcahtoa82]

Selecting multiple lines of text in an IDE does not require a mouse. Just hold Shift and use the up/down arrows.

The ability to select text in this way has existed in Windows for at least 20 years.

[philwelch]

I've literally never coded in Windows. Seems like a weird choice.

[Sohcahtoa82]

I'm a gamer, so Windows is my daily driver. I'm not going to install a Linux VM just to run PyCharm and VSCode.

Professionally, I'm at the whim of whatever environment my employer uses. I've used Linux (CentOS), Windows, and Macs. If I'm doing Python development, then it's pretty OS agnostic unless I'm using a Python module that compiles to a native binary, in which case Windows is certainly a nightmare.

[philwelch]

I'm just saying there are editors worth using beyond PyCharm and VSCode, some of which don't use the tab key to indent selected text. Kids these days don't respect the old ways grumble grumble....