[yesenadam]

I feel like the key to you seeing great significance in these reports are your unspoken premises, the beliefs you have, how you are framing this, which you will have to say out loud for me to know why you're posting this stuff.

[zmgsabst]

I feel like you’re intentionally avoiding the point by saying things like “I don’t see the word totalitarian” and then ignoring the obvious implication that the article describes camps which are forcibly quarantining people who never traveled, including taking measures like searching unrelated cars who happen to be nearby.

I think you’re responding in bad faith because it would challenge your view of yourself and your nation to admit that forcible imprisonment in camps for quarantine is what people mean when they say “totalitarian”.

[cycomanic]

On the other hand the US has the highest incarnation rate of any western country by a large margin. So I guess the guns don't help against the totalitarian tendencies of their government.

[zmgsabst]

Are you saying you believe that number would be lower if Americans owned fewer guns? — what mechanism do you believe would cause that?

[cycomanic]

No I'm saying that your argument is that putting people into forced quarantine if the disobey requirements is totalitarian and that it would be prevented by higher gun ownership. I'm saying that the US is putting a much larger fraction of their population into jails (for disobeying requirements), which should be considered just as totalitarian and the armed populace is not preventing it.

[zmgsabst]

You don’t see a difference between jailing people who commit crimes versus forcible quarantine of people because they caught a highly communicable disease?

Or why forcible internment in camps for a disease might remind people of other atrocities in history?

[yesenadam]

I clicked through to the news story because I assumed from your comment that the BBC story used "totalitarian", evidently I misunderstood. For doing that I'm intentionally missing the point, ignoring things and responding in bad faith?

> forcible imprisonment in camps for quarantine is what people mean when they say “totalitarian”

I think I understand that it's what you mean when you say "totalitarian". I'm not interested in communicating further, after your unfriendly accusations.