[josephcsible]

> I am not sure why there's so much negativity around Fuchsia.

Because the real reason for its existence seems to be to slowly kill open source, by not requiring hardware vendors to provide kernel/driver source anymore.

[IshKebab]

Nonsense. Linux already doesn't require hardware vendors to provide driver sources. Fuchsia just makes it easier to upgrade things when they don't.

[josephcsible]

> Linux already doesn't require hardware vendors to provide driver sources.

Yes it does. The GPL literally does exactly that.

[pjmlp]

It is sooo successful on the Android, IoT ecosystems.

[josephcsible]

So just because some people have broken rules and gotten away with it so far, we should get rid of those rules for everyone?

[cogman10]

Nobody has broken rules. The rules are simply permissive enough that you can still push out a Non-GPL drivers for a GPL mono-kernel.

The Fuchsia design is good because it recognizes that reality and creates a world where patching the kernel doesn't require hardware vendors to rebuild their drivers.

[pjmlp]

Rules that can be broken in the open without consequences aren't rules.

In any case, the transition to MIT based FOSS on embedded platforms like Zephyr, RTOS, NutX,... proves that it won't matter for much longer anyway.

[pabs3]

That will probably change if this lawsuit against Vizio succeeds:

https://sfconservancy.org/copyleft-compliance/vizio.html

If it does, then any recipient of Linux will be able to sue for compliance.