[Darrengineer]

I don't necessarily disagree with your conclusion but comparing gun/crime numbers to Canada isn't particularly helpful. Canada has wildly different tolerances of what is legal as far as violence goes, not to mention the suspect nature of crime statistics in the US when comparing areas with differing socioeconomic status. Many in the US see it as perfectly reasonable to use deadly force to defend property, as that's been heavily pushed into legislation (ALEC's 'stand your ground' gun laws) See this article about self-defense in Canada: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/self-defence-what-s-acceptabl...

Your last line is vague - can you expand? The UK has far, far lower murder rates than the US so do you mean that the UK has twice the amount of non-murder violent crime?

[giantg2]

"use deadly force to defend property, as that's been heavily pushed into legislation (ALEC's 'stand your ground' gun laws)"

Stand you ground laws do not allow for deadly force to defend property. Ones life must be imminent threat of death or great bodily harm (or kidnapping, or rape, or any of the above in defense of a third person). The vast majority of places do not allow deadly force to defend property. I believe Texas has a law that sort of allows it on the presumption that anyone committing a felony on your property at night has deadly intent). But that's an exception. Reasonable force still applies as well.

And yes, approximately.