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by annoyingnoob 1481 days ago
Digital Ocean is great for spammers because Digital Ocean does not care to be a good internet citizen. Being a good internet citizen would be too expensive, so DO just throws up its hands and does nothing about its spamming customers.
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Uhm, you just sounded like an add for DO here: "DO won't randomly shut down your account because they guess you might be doing something fishy like spamming"

...and don't tell me you don't get "spam" from AWS users. Only GCP is doing more policing, but as a dev I'd be wary of using them of fear of being labeled "suspicious" because some weirder scraping usage patterns or whatever.

The subject here is Digital Ocean. Yes, I get spam from seemingly all providers. However, AWS takes action and DO does not. DO will simply pass my complaint on to the spammer and my problem becomes worse.

I've setup a rule to simply drop mail from DO IP addresses, no legit mail ever comes from DO.

Sending a spam complaint to DO will do nothing more than verify to spammers that you are a good target.

If DO wants a better reputation then they can earn one.

Also

> DO will simply pass my complaint on to the spammer

Again, as a DO customer I want to be able to see any complains fired against me. Point in plus for them from the perspective of a potential customer.

...you seem to misunderstand what the desired attributes of a cloud provider are. Besides at most having marginally more spam in the world, how you seem to say the ideal cloud provider should behave is really worse for everyone. You're playing a "oh but think of the children" argument but with "spam" recipients instead of the children so it's hard to have any sympathy for such malicious reasoning.

Shrug. So anyway, since most of us use 3rd party services to send emails, using DO is perfectly fine. Whatever.

(And if the extra profit they get from hosting spammers results in slightly lower prices for me then I'm glad to profit. It's about sending spam, not firing missiles or dropping bombs. Again, whatever.)

> (And if the extra profit they get from hosting spammers results in slightly lower prices for me then I'm glad to profit. It's about sending spam, not firing missiles or dropping bombs. Again, whatever.)

Its fine if you want to watch the world burn for your own benefit. Not all of us do care to see that.

You should take a look at Verizon's 2022 Data Breach Investigation Report. https://www.verizon.com/business/resources/reports/dbir/2022...

https://www.verizon.com/business/resources/reports/dbir/2022...

"82% of breaches involved a human element"

"66% of breaches involved Phishing, Stolen credentials and/or Ransomware."

So glad to hear that you want to support Business Email Compromise. https://www.fbi.gov/scams-and-safety/common-scams-and-crimes...

We'll see how much you shrug when it happens to you.

I've found them to be rather responsive when dealing with spam complaints.