[queensnake]

Is it the programmers that push for it, though, usually? I think management (at least mine) likes the fine-grained control + reporting (and the /name/!), and the rest is catch as catch can.

[biohacker42]

Programmers tend to push for more testing, continuous integration, lots of short iterations, quiet time and space.

Management tends to push for more meetings, more things you can track and measure and more tracking and measuring and ways to lover cost.

None of this is bad, what's bad is that where ever there is turmoil, good ideas and crap ideas get mixed up.

Like pair programming and/or co-location vs. private quiet offices.