[Mr_P]

Microservices is just OOP/dependency-injection, but with RPCs instead of function calls.

The same criticisms for microservices (claims that it adds complexity, or too many pieces) are also seen for OOP.

Curiously, while folks sometimes complain about breaking up a system into smaller microservices or smaller classes, nobody every complains about being asked to break up an essay into paragraphs.

[singron]

I don't think the paragraph metaphor works well since written works are often read front to back, and the organizational hierarchy isn't so important on such a linear medium. There are books that buck the trends and IMO you don't really notice the weirdness once you get going. E.g. books with long sentences that take up the whole paragraph, or paragraphs that take up the whole page, or both at the same time. Some books don't have paragraphs at all, and some books don't have chapters.

Splitting material into individual books makes a little more sense as a metaphor, especially if it's not a linear series of books. You can't just split a mega-book into chunks. Each book needs to be somewhat freestanding. Between books, there is an additional purchasing decision introduced. The end of one book must convince you to go buy the next book, which must have an interesting cover and introduction so that you actually buy it. It might need to recap material in a previous book or duplicate material that occurs elsewhere non-linearly.

A new book has an expected cost and length. We expect to pay 5-20 dollars for a few hundred pages of paperback to read for many hours. We wouldn't want to pay cents for a few pages at a time every 5 minutes. (or if we did, it would require significantly different distribution like ereaders with micropayments or advertising). Some books are produced as serials and come with tradeoffs like a proliferation of chapters and a story that keeps on going.

Anyway, it's a very long way to say that some splitting is merely style, some splitting has deeper implications, the splits can be too big or too small, and some things might not need splits at all.

[Ma8ee]

I'd like to argue against [quote].

[author] uses the [simile] to argue the [argument].

The obvious flaw in the [argument] is of course [counterargument].

[quote]: Curiously, while folks sometimes complain about breaking up a system into smaller microservices or smaller classes, nobody every complains about being asked to break up an essay into paragraphs.

[author]: Mr_P

[simile]: microservices or smaller classes are like paragraphs in an essay.

[argument]: since no one complains about breaking up an essay into paragraphs, no one should complain about breaking up a system into paragraphs.

[counterargument]: breaking up a system in smaller microservices or classes is not at all like breaking up an essay into paragraphs, which I think this comment has demonstrated.

[epicureanideal]

> Curiously, while folks sometimes complain about breaking up a system into smaller microservices or smaller classes, nobody every complains about being asked to break up an essay into paragraphs.

There are orders of magnitude different amounts of work in each of these cases. (I’m not saying it’s a lot of work but it’s still significantly more in some of those cases relative to the others.)

[Transfinity]

Perhaps "break up your book into chapters" is a better metaphor for microservices. Breaking a chapter into paragraphs makes me think more of OO design or functional decomposition.

[dgb23]

It’s breaking up into whole books. Each has is stored, distributed, addressed and built separately. You have to become an expert at making the implied overhead efficient, because it will dominate everything you do.

[lelanthran]

> Curiously, while folks sometimes complain about breaking up a system into smaller microservices or smaller classes, nobody every complains about being asked to break up an essay into paragraphs.

They would if each paragraph of that essay lived at a different domain/url.

[the_gipsy]

Even if each paragraph was its own file. It's just a bad metaphor.

[closeparen]

A microservice contains many classes. Those classes are organized into packages and so many of them are necessarily “public.” The microservice boundary is a new kind of grouping, where even this collection of packages and public classes presents only one small interface to the rest of the architecture. AFAIK this is not a common or natural pattern in OOP and normal visibility rules schemes don’t support or encourage it.

[bcrosby95]

My favorite books are the ones where you read a paragraph and realize, after the fact, that it's just 1 sentence.