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by prepend 1482 days ago
The pull a gun over trash scenario is kind of ridiculous because the gun puller would be arrested. And it just doesn’t happen.

It would go like this: 1) I leave trash out 2) Neighbor yells and pulls out gun 3) I put up trash 4) I call police, neighbor is arrested and gun is taken away forever.

I think there’s a perception of “crazy people owning guns” means they are just randomly doing things. Gun owners are typically pretty responsible or self-destructive.

Half the US owns guns and there aren’t many crimes percentage wise. So the vast, vast majority just never do stuff with their gun.

The actual argument is about the extreme outliers who murder people and commit mass shootings. There’s 20M firearm homicides [0] so that’s still super rare as a rate but the impact of each event is super impactful.

[0] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

2 comments

They would get arrested maybe - but only after I was already shot.
> The pull a gun over trash scenario is kind of ridiculous because the gun puller would be arrested. And it just doesn’t happen.

"Doesn't" is a strong word:

* https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/colorado-cop-who-pulled...

* https://www.fox4now.com/news/local-news/cape-coral-resident-...

> I think there’s a perception of “crazy people owning guns” means they are just randomly doing things. Gun owners are typically pretty responsible or self-destructive.

The problem is there is no filter in the US for the people that are not "pretty responsible or self-destructive." Just about any rando can get a gun in many states.

> The actual argument is about the extreme outliers who murder people and commit mass shootings.

No, it's about the 'background noise' of destruction that is on proverbial page 17 of the newspaper:

> A member of our well regulated militia allows a juvenile access to a loaded gun. The juvenile brings the gun to the home of a 14 year old friend, who shoots himself in the head unintentionally. He doesn’t survive.

* https://twitter.com/Well_Regulated_/status/15183659425894113...

> A member of our well regulated militia moves a loaded gun from a bedroom to a bathroom, then leaves it there. Her 6 year old son finds the gun when he goes to take a shower and shoots himself in the head. He does not survive.

* https://twitter.com/Well_Regulated_/status/15229931050662502...

> A (drunk) member of our well regulated militia spots her neighbor grilling burgers, so she walks over and points a handgun at his face and says "bang bang." When police arrive at her home, she points a cane at them and pretends it's a long gun.

* https://twitter.com/Well_Regulated_/status/15158166918082273...

See also:

* https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting