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> The argument against jQuery is thus an argument against libraries in general.

Then it's a nice thing that I never made any argument against including jQuery or any library in a page or project, nor I'm saying anyone should reimplement it, or even do anything. I'm not talking about those things.

> Would we even by having this discussion

We aren't even having this discussion. Seems like you're having an argument against an imaginary version of me. I'm not saying (or implying) the things you are arguing against.

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Your argument is that is that body is going to re-implement all of jQuery with their own helper functions. I got that. It's just not a very interesting point. Was I using hyperbole -- yes. You got me.