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by web4 1490 days ago
you are making it seem like it is difficult to tell a David Hockney NFT is a fake. step one: does the artist have a clear history of minting associated with an address? if no, and the artist is not making any claims to making nfts, then most likely it is a fake. if yes, and the artist is promoting the nft at that address, it is probably not a fake.

in the case of Hockney as he has been expressly against nfts and has never publicly made one, a fake is easily detectable. in the case of Beeple who has been expressly for nfts, it is easy to authenticate as it will be associated with his address.

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> like it is difficult to tell a David Hockney NFT is a fake

No idea who David Hockney is

> does the artist have a clear history of minting associated with an address

What the hell does this mean? If I don't know who David Hockney is, how can I tell if a particular thing "has a history of minting"?

> in the case of Hockney as he has been expressly against nfts and has never publicly made one, a fake is easily detectable.

How is it easily detectable?

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To put it simply:

- DevianArt has more than half a billion images and 61 million regitered users [0]

- 4 million images are uploaded to Instagram every hour [1]

- As early as 2016 there were 3000 images per second uploaded to Twitter [2]

So, given all that, tell me in a few steps to tell if an image on OpenSea is fake, or is being sold without the author's permission

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We can make it even simpler. I honestly came across it by pure accident

Here's a page by Polina Climova at OpenSea, https://opensea.io/collection/polina-climova

Here's a page by Polina Climova at Instagram, https://www.instagram.com/polinaclimova/

Do these pages belong to the same person?

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[0] https://www.deviantart.com/about/

[1] https://earthweb.com/how-many-pictures-are-on-instagram/

[2] http://highscalability.com/blog/2016/4/20/how-twitter-handle...

> Do these pages belong to the same person?

what does your gut tell you?

despite knowing so little about art market and art history that you’ve never heard of the world’s most influential and highest sold living artists, you can probably still make a rational guess that this NFT collection is a copymint. perhaps the fact that the artist never once mentions or links to the collection from their Instagram profile acts as a hint.

this is what I mean by “trivially easy” compared to art forgeries in the real world, which do take professional art historians and years of study, and yet still leaves many of them fooled.

it’s worth noting that the collection has not sold, and very likely never will.

> despite knowing so little about art market and art history that you’ve never heard of the world’s most influential and highest sold living artists, you can probably still make a rational guess that this NFT collection is a copymint

Demagoguery

> perhaps the fact that the artist never once mentions or links to the collection from their Instagram profile acts as a hint.

So, you're basically saying that you have no idea whether either Instagram or OpenSea page actually belong to the artist and it's impossible to find out if they do or do not.

The argument "they didn't sell anything" is moot because, again, there are hundreds of thousands of digital artists producing millions of images, and not all of them are "famous minting more than a year and you know what they say about NFTs off the top of your head"