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>It then mentions that the referendum was held at gunpoint, which I am not sure what it is supposed to mean, could they not vote whatever they wanted in it? Yes, this usually means exactly that. For example, that Crimean Tartar community members were kidnapped, arrested, disappeared, deported or killed before, during and after the referendum. It also means that vote counting was rigged, ballot stuffing was prevalent, people were coerced into voting, and that the very question posed in the referendum was completely biased. > Here they try to imply that the objective is to kill every Ukrainian while not explicitly mentioning it, while it seems that the goal is to instead eliminate the idea of Ukrainian separatism. (kinda like Spain and Catalonia) Your statement seems to imply that Ukraine is not a sovereign country, otherwise it pains me to understand how it could be 'separatist'. Care to elaborate? Russia's official statements regarding Ukrainian sovereignty, nationhood, and nationality do speak of 'elimination'. Russian actions in occupied territories of Ukraine indicate that this is, indeed, one of their war aims. Since the elimination of a nationality and its culture is what's known as committing a genocide, I have to ask: are you saying that Spain is committing a genocide in Catalonia? |
Even if this is true[1] I do not see how this would alert the result of the referendum, given the amount of people who voted in support of joining Russia.
[1] this article is the first time that I saw such a claim. I might search about it later.
"and that the very question posed in the referendum was completely biased"
The question as posted in Wikipedia seems reasonable to me.
"Your statement seems to imply that Ukraine is not a sovereign country, otherwise it pains me to understand how it could be 'separatist'. Care to elaborate?"
I mean regarding the currently occupied territories/after a future annexation of Ukraine.
"do speak of 'elimination'"
Sure, of the ideas of "sovereignty, nationhood, and nationality", not of the people themselves.
"Since the elimination of a nationality and its culture is what's known as committing a genocide"
I (and as I perceive it, the majority of the people) do not personally consider the elimination of the idea of a nationality as genocide. I could perhaps be willing to entertain the idea of a cultural genocide (it is however questionable that this is what is planned for the Ukrainians) but I would not equate it to an actual genocide.
"are you saying that Spain is committing a genocide in Catalonia?"
I have seen some arguing it, but it is not something that I personally believe.