[woodruffw]

This is the correct framing: we are willing to spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year as a country, so long as the framing of that money contains the lie of deservedness.

Contrast our funding of SSI with our funding of the defense industry, an industry that would be virtually indistinguishable from a middle class jobs program were it not for its tendency to start wars in the Middle East.

[scarface74]

It’s even worse than you think. The military is constantly trying to close bases and get rid of weapons that aren’t needed to save money. But Congress blocks them at every turn. That’s the whole “government doesn’t create jobs. But don’t take away our make work military jobs.”

The military leaders have also been saying for years that our increase debt is an existential threat.

[JohnWhigham]

It's been shocking the amount of "emergency" funding for Ukraine that has been passed in the past 2 months. If it were for anything else other than the military, Republicans would have a gargantuan hissy fit over it and probably filibuster it to death.

[scarface74]

And none of it helps any of “our great military men and women” that they claim to love. It only helps the military industrial complex.

Again this is not criticizing the military. It’s more of a critique of the defense industry and their lobbyist.

[scruple]

Eisenhower's farewell speech comes to mind here.