Ask HN: Updates on Jetbrains Fleet?

[sarahdellysse]

It's been like half a year since it was first announced in closed beta; I never got an invite to the beta, and on occasion I look it up to see if it's ready for general consumption yet.

Those who are in the beta, what's your thoughts on this editor?

[f311a]

I think Jetbrains is busy relocating their staff.

[nicce]

Founders are from Russia. They had a lot of staff as well?

[tadfisher]

Most of their engineering team is/was in St. Petersburg.

[f311a]

They had like 10 open positions in Russia for Fleet

[bardworx]

I don’t believe they have any openings in Russia and they’ve moved their HQ to Prague.

https://www.jetbrains.com/careers/jobs/

[SemanticStrengh]

their HQ was already in prague ~IIRC

[AdamGibbins]

Legally speaking yes, practically speaking however it was in St Petersburg. Their Prague office was tiny in comparison aiui, I wonder if they've since relocated.

[phlyingpenguin]

I noticed earlier today that most of the Fleet documentation was last updated on May 2 and references "1.0", but it's pretty sparse for a release-ready documentation site.

https://www.jetbrains.com/help/fleet/getting-started.html

Edit: I don't expect this really means anything. The entire site seems to have been generated at once, and that was ~3 weeks ago.

[cmeacham98]

Jetbrains at least originally said they're going to do an open beta before a true release, maybe that's what 1.0 is?

[azeirah]

Don't know much about Fleet, but their accompanying space project is slowly getting better and better!

I'm liking it a lot. It isn't something particularly great yet but I like having my own domain, I like having integration with Jetbrains products, I like my own repos in a not-so-public location, I like extremely-easy-to-set-up CI.

Gitlab checks most of these boxes too but.. Dunno, Space just feels more intuitive to me. Might be due to the docs being really solid.

[mdaniel]

All hail having statically typed CICD, too: https://www.jetbrains.com/help/space/automation-getting-star...

I haven't been in a position to try space in anger yet in order to know if they have any "run CI jobs locally" story, but that's for sure one of the major pain points with GLCI

[swozey]

It is very barebones, I can't use it as a full-time IDE yet.

[xienze]

Yeah I’m on the beta and I was expecting something that could operate as a minimal Java IDE (they made lots of claims of it using the normal IntelliJ indexing and autocomplete engine), but I couldn’t get it to be much more than the equivalent of VS Code minus any compelling plugins.

[ternaryoperator]

I'm on the beta and agree with this assessment. It's feature-thin presently, and many features barely work. IMHO they released it too early to beta, by which I mean that it's difficult to provide useful feedback when so many basic features don't work.

[okaybuy]

I have high hopes for this but I dont forsee anything being ready for a few years, Jetbrains moves at a snail pace - even when the threat radar is flashing alerts e.g. VsCode remote dev - today they are just barely getting their remote development story out of beta after flip flopping for several years on approach and half baked plugin inconsistent implementations

[xvilo]

I got access last month to the closed beta and it's indeed still very Barebones and buggy on Marcos. Although, they seem to be pretty active on the bug tracker, I think it will take some serious time before its ready.

[linuxftw]

I just tried it. Can't 'goto definition' for dependencies for Go or Python, so that function is almost useless for those languages IMO.

[champagnepapi]

As a PYCharm and Datagrip user, excited to hear updates :)