[MisterBastahrd]

pro-medical-care is identically stupid.

This is about the right to bodily autonomy, not medical care. Right now we have a right to not be searched, but don't have a right to do what we want with our own bodies. Give it a few years, watch in amusement as redneck states start attempting to ban tattoo parlors for "decency" reasons under the auspices of "proper medical care."

[anamax]

> This is about the right to bodily autonomy, not medical care.

Does "bodily autonomy" apply to vaccines?

[MisterBastahrd]

What number of people were forced to take a vaccine?

[anamax]

> What number of people were forced to take a vaccine?

Folks who worked for govt agencies and contractors were fired for refusing and there were serious efforts to deny govt services on that basis.

Feel free to play games with "forced" but we both know how you'd come down wrt comparable measures and abortion.

[MisterBastahrd]

Oh, I'm not playing games.

They're literally different and you know it to be true, but you'd prefer to play semantics because you can't back it up with logic. Like the idea that losing your job for failing to comply with public safety measures is the same as being charged with murder for aborting an ectopic pregnancy. Severing an employment relationship is nothing like incarcerating someone.

[anamax]

So, you're okay with women being fired or denied govt benefits if they have an abortion.

What? You're not? But you said that they were different.

The difference is that one involves abortion while the other involves vaccines.

And yes, I'm going to argue meaning. There aren't any tautologies here.

[adolph]

redneck states

[MisterBastahrd]

Yes, redneck states (I'm from Louisiana and live in Texas... I have no reason to be politically correct). The current opposition to bodily autonomy is historically intertwined with opposition to dismantling segregation, and there are many "super-concerned" adults living south of the Mason-Dixon who would be just fine with prohibiting their kids from getting tattoos because they clash with appearances at Sunday service. The exact same disregard for bodily autonomy for the purposes of preserving the life of a fetus also applies to body art.

[oceanghost]

Ironically the bible forbids tattoos (LV 19:28), but doesn't say much about abortion.