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by shadowgovt 1491 days ago
> all the maps have built in speedometers with an alarming red rectangle when you are speeding

By "all the maps," do you mean "Apple, Google, and Waze?" If so, see my previous statement; they're offering a driver-assist, but they're not ultimately responsible for your safety so their data doesn't need to be fully accurate. Tesla is pulling its data for the in-car map from Google. Nobody is going to try and sue Google if they're in a crash because "the little red box that tells me I'm speeding didn't show up, Your Honor." And Google has made clear that it indemnifies itself from such liability in provision of the map data (i.e. "You're holding it wrong" if you wire Google's idea of what speed limits are directly into the control plane a life-or-death machine).

So Tesla would have to take ownership of that problem directly... Put its own fleet of cars on the road to drive around and photograph speed limits. They could actually hypothetically do that given the cameras on the Teslas if they push data from the driver back to HQ. What's the data licensing agreement look like on owning a Tesla? Does it already grant Tesla that privilege by virtue of someone owning their car?

> the data for what the speed limit is is generally public, or very obviously derivable from principles-first, common sense engineering

Public, yes, but must be consolidated, validated, and kept up-to-date. And the principles-first "common sense engineering" does not describe how America's roads are actually labeled and structured, sadly.

> autopilot has more than enough data to know its not on a freeway

Does it? I don't think Autopilot has any concept of what road it's on; it's not consolidated with the Tesla's navigation map. It's viewing the road directly and looking for local lane markers and obstacles.

Such a consolidation with the global data to understand current speed limit would imply new design safety constraints for both the Autopilot and the onboard map systems.