[sidewndr46]

I don't know how your windows are made, but you can't really use glass to gauge the sound level of noise. If it is in anyway loose, it acts like a very rigid speaker diaphragm. It moves back and forth with any sound, since glass basically doesn't flex. What you're actually measuring is your own ability to perceive its movement.

As far as fining motorists for horn usage, if it works like everywhere else in the US there is no way they could ever actually make good on the fines. As long even a small percentage of people requested a court hearing (doesn't matter if it is a jury trial or something else) the police officer would basically spend 1 day writing fines, the remaining days in the year just sitting in court.

I'm unsure though, maybe NYC has a provision allowing it to issue fines you can't contest.

[ahh]

> As far as fining motorists for horn usage, if it works like everywhere else in the US there is no way they could ever actually make good on the fines.

Confiscate their cars, problem solved.

[tekknik]

> I'm unsure though, maybe NYC has a provision allowing it to issue fines you can't contest.

Fairly certain such a scheme would be illegal.

[sidewndr46]

Does due process apply in the US to just fines? My understanding is that due process only applies when the government intends to deprive you of life, liberty, or property. I don't think a fine paid in currency falls in those categories.

For example I've gotten parking tickets that had "automatic" hearings with no judge if you requested one. Unsurprisingly, they tended to find in favor of the government.

[sagarm]

Get it covered under civil asset forfeiture somehow. If our rights are going to be trampled anyway, might as well be some social benefit.