[Liskni_si]

> A keyboard qualifies as a "thinkpad keyboard" if has all of the following:

> PageUp above Left, PageDown above Right: to me, that's the most important thing ever!

> PrintScreen between right Alt and right Ctrl: very important too

That's not a proper ThinkPad keyboard at all. That's the new 6-row fake which has 10 fewer keys than a proper ThinkPad keyboard, which is this one: https://laptopkeys.com/uploads/704_1348778226_Lenovo%20t410s...

[csdvrx]

That's what available now: except on the T25, the old layout is no longer found on modern Thinkpads.

This modern layout has advantages: for example, the space between the keys makes it more comfortable to use with nails, so I no longer have to keep them short.

[Liskni_si]

> This modern layout has advantages: for example, the space between the keys makes it more comfortable to use with nails, so I no longer have to keep them short.

Layout and the shape of keys are orthogonal concepts.

But yeah, you're right that there aren't many options these days, and the T25 is getting old. :-(

[rkagerer]

Youch does nobody else go haywire that Fn and Ctrl keys are in the 'wrong' spots?

[csdvrx]

There's a bios option to swap them, and custom firmwares doing the same for the thinkpad bluetooth keyboard

[rkagerer]

Ah awesome!

[pmlnr]

That is the correct one. FN first, ctrl next. See DEC, and IBM.

[csdvrx]

Personally, I like it as it is, but I can understand someone preferring the control key in the bottom left (though I would suggest using Caps as Control, in which case having Fn on the easier to reach spot and therefore first would still make more sense)