[oefrha]

You and I both know Detroit is very far from the safest city on earth. It’s among the most dangerous in the U.S.

[justin66]

Eh. It's #14 for Violent Crime / Robbery, behind a pretty interesting list of other cities:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...

The main thing I'm getting from that list is that I sure don't remember Fremont being some kind of mecca, of safety or otherwise. So that's surprising.

[samatman]

#3 in murder, after St. Louis and Baltimore.

The thing about the cities in really bad shape is that all we get is the reported crime rate, which tends to be lower. Murder rates are a more accurate statistic since you can't ignore a body like a jacked car or a rape.

[ticviking]

Man there's a case in Virginia where they did just that.