[relaxatorium]

I'm sympathetic to the extremely legitimate security concerns here, but it's pretty rich for the "open, we're so open" company to be running a classic 90s Microsoft Embrace Extend Extinguish playbook on SMTP/IMAP which, for all its faults, is one of the more important open protocols undergirding the internet.

[pas]

you can use SMTP to access GMail and auth via a web browser based flow (OAuth2/OIDC), this added extra security is needed if there's an additional server in the mix that manages the OIDC tokens for the user

> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31421066