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by Fletch137 1493 days ago
This article conviced me decide to research and possibly try using Dexedrine/Dextroamphetamine. Wish me the best! I always wanted to try a potentially powerful nootropic.
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Humm… I knew a few people that managed to destroy their life by taking amphetamines. Sometimes there is a reason for some substances to be controlled. But of course ultimately it's up to you and each case is a case. I just wanted to offer some deterrent because I know anecdotal reports on the internet tend to be quite positive since the people that wrote them probably just started.
And if it destroys people's lives, then those people probably aren't prioritizing writing online to tell others.

Survivorship Bias?

Not necessarily. I hear a lot more often of all the people with destroyed lives by opiates than about all the people whose lives are improved(which is if anything a larger group).
> I hear a lot more often of all the people with destroyed lives by opiates

They get all the press & panic. The much, much, much larger group - they're the people who've become unable to be prescribed any pain meds (due to frightened Dr.s, 3 day state limits on Rx) and now live their lives in pain. They're pretty much off everyone's radar.

I have friends with chronic conditions (re:Rhum Arthritis) who responsibly took pain meds for years but now buy their pain relief off the street. Zero of their Dr.s are willing to Rx any opioids. Past that are the now commonplace stories of people being Rx Tylenol following surgery.

In the last year, I twice had to beg+negotiate for Tramadol. Once following surgery and once to tamper down severe knee pain so I could exercise. That latter one came with a "Don't Ask For This Again" vibe.

Can you share some more details? As I have just been prescribed Adderall and I want to make sure that's something I want to take regularly.
If you have been prescribed something, you are under doctor supervision so my comment doesn't apply to you. I was talking about people doing drugs and/or self medicating.

Just make sure your doctor's loyalty lies with you and not with some pharmaceutical company and you will be fine.

and you could always get a second or third opinion just to make sure.
I've been on Adderall for 15 years. It's brought sweeping, positive changes to my life.

I have increased control over thinking & recall and that allows my efforts to yield results. It's an everything-sized difference.

It’s perfectly safe as long as you monitor your blood pressure and remember to eat. The evidence is quite good that taking it reduces substance abuse in patients as well.
Aka "speed". Of course it works, it is a hard drug! You can also try MDMA, meth, cocaine, etc... they all work, until they kill you.

Ok, I am exaggerating, these drugs are not that bad, even if you include their "fun" applications, as long as you follow the harm reduction principles. And these anti-ADHD tablets are not dubious street drugs, they are well dosed, pure and slowly released.

But still, I would avoid these in the long run, caffeine is where I draw the line for regular use (and I'd rather not depend on it). Also keep in mind that ADHD treatment is meant for people with ADHD, basically giving them the stimulation their brain can't provide on its own, this way they can calm down instead of being in constant search for excitement. If you don't have ADHD you don't need any of that and it will just make you a bit high, an almost opposite effect.

> Also keep in mind that ADHD treatment is meant for people with ADHD, basically giving them the stimulation their brain can't provide on its own, this way they can calm down instead of being in constant search for excitement.

That’s not how it works. Your brain has networks responsible for keeping the rest under control and it’s those that get “stimulated”. It doesn’t just make everything more exciting - that’s MDMA.

>Aka "speed".

Speed is typically not Dextroamphetamine and not as pure (at minimum the dosages seem quite different) though hard to tell what amphetamine you are getting with it. Otherwise yes, pretty close and it's possible that speed is more dangerous because of the amounts people take of it at a time vs the typically lower and more consistent dosing with Dexedrine. Similar for meth and vyvanse.

I used Dexedrine some years ago because I was dealing with a lack of focus, tiredness, and brain fog.

For the month or so that it worked, it was pretty awesome. My mind felt like it was hammering away and as sharp as I was in my twenties.

Unfortunately, that feeling didn't last more than maybe six weeks. I was advised by some to just increase the dosage, but my heart was already fluttering in my chest at the dosage I was at. Also, my sleep was odd, with weird dreams that would wake me up, preventing me from falling back asleep for hours. Added to that, my blood pressure got stuck over 140 and wouldn't come down.

If I could get a prescription that would give me the benefits of those first weeks of use, without destroying my health, I'd be all over it.

Eventually, my GP noticed that I had a thyroid deficiency that I'm not treating with thyroid hormone. That's helped a great deal with the tiredness and brain fog.

> For the month or so that it worked, it was pretty awesome. Unfortunately, that feeling didn't last more than maybe six weeks.

Sort of similar. I found every wrong road I took (supplements, diets, physical) helped - for 2 weeks and then never again. Stims turned out to be my right road.