[tlarkworthy]

Many of these competitors are missing: offline persistence, optimistic updates, local cache, push updates, command pipelining and casual consistency. Which is cool but to me this is missing the main point of Firebase which was about making modern, reactive apps simpler to develop.

Appwrite and supabase make CRUD apps easier to write. It's different. I guess Firebase expanded to being used for everything but it was all about realtime apps originally (ex-Firebase developer here)

I like these apps but I find the positioning weird given their feature set

[burggraf]

Supabase developer here. We concentrate on the following core features:

Database (PostgreSQL with Postgrest for REST)

Auth (GoTrue)

Storage (S3, or local files if self-hosting)

Edge Functions (Deno, deployed across dozens of regions)

Realtime (a lot of new stuff coming up in this space now at Supabase)

[_query]

Have you checked out thin.dev? We provide optimistc updates, local cache and realtime is the default for everything (offline persistence has not been the focus as we're not targeting mobile for now)