[Terry_Roll]

18days here and would carried on but had to break it for other reasons.

Glutathione possibly needs to be included as this will get low and Choline or Carnitine to remove the brain fog that occurred.

Averaged 18kg weight loss over the 18days, never felt so good in my life, like being a teenage male ramped up on Testosterone again, amazingly easy to fall asleep, excellent quality of sleep, vivid dreams which are recalled in the morning, not nightmares or anything like that. Foods which I dont like because of historical reasons smelt appealing and I wanted to eat them, no cravings for anything.

The only water I could really wanted, was the Scottish Highlands water, just didnt like Evian, S. Pellegrino, and the supermarket brands, and I wonder if highly filtered water ie dead water with no contaminants so its almost pure H2O would have been what I wanted, but they dont sell that in supermarkets AFAIK.

Ramadan is one of the fasts where you dont consume fluids during the day, and not consuming fluids will ramp up parts of your immune system which is why its important to drink fluid in order to not get angry. This could be in part because histamine is used by immune cells to move through tissues, but a personality side effect of high amounts is increased aggression. Anyone who supplements with histidine a precursor for histamine may also notice increased aggression. ie explosive rage, so be careful.

[chronogram]

Most supermarkets do sell demiwater (distilled/deionised), which is great for chemistry or cleaning of electrical components, as well as having a standard base (with mineral packets) for brewing coffee or beer. I would definitely not drink it, especially not without heavy supplementation of minerals, else you lose more minerals from your water circulation than the 0 that you gain.

[Terry_Roll]

Sometimes its the chemicals in the water that cause the problem.

During my fast, my sense of smell became super good but the smell of chlorine in the tap water was disgusting, I couldnt drink the stuff.

[HanMei_333]

18 kg in 18 days is probably a typo. While fasting you never burn that much calories.

2-3 kg per week is a realistic number.

[TimSchumann]

I averaged 1.3 lbs/day for the entire length of my 60 day fast, and the first two weeks were much higher weight loss than usual. I can see 18kg in 18 days depending on what size you are. Of course 2-4kg will be water weight and another 2-4kg will just be stuff that lives in your gut, which is to say you'll gain it right back when you start eating again.

I just rolled into day four of a fast and the delta from two days ago is 3.72 kg.

Most of the weight you lose in the first 3 to 5 days of a fast isn't fat, its stuff in your gut and losing water as you draw down your glycogen stores.

[Terry_Roll]

So the water I was drinking I added a pinch of salt to it so I was drinking salty water. Obviously that will increase the Th17 cells but the number of immune cells drop off when you dont eat because generally the immune system attacks some of the food we eat, starch is one of the sugar's it wont attack.

[Terry_Roll]

Its not a typo, I did lose that much weight.

[SemanticStrengh]

This is a very complex topic and Glutathione or NAC has a half life of only ~5 hours. Had I to do it I would take ALCAR 2000MG but still you are playing with a lot of unknowns phamarcologically speaking. As i said a lab test of bioenergetics level, oxidative stress and apotosis are needed to bring confidence.

[Terry_Roll]

> you are playing with a lot of unknowns phamarcologically

Totally agree, but maintaining brain function is my priority the ALCAR may also help considering its similar to choline.