[herbst]

My list why discord sucks:

- Their clients are fat and hungry

- Third party clients get removed

- The CEO was owner of a data collection and selling company before.

- Tencient owns to much ownership

- They don't even claim to provide any kind of Privacy

- DM Spam is horrible

- Sometimes enforcing a phone number but don't even support some major carriers.

- Some scams are using the same URLs for years. discord doesn't care.

- Personally I find the UI confusing and unproductive.

I never understood why it even got relevant outside of gaming. It's basically just a closed source, Chinese owned, privacy disrespecting IRC on steroids.

[franga2000]

> I never understood why it even got relevant outside of gaming. It's basically just a closed source, Chinese owned, privacy disrespecting IRC on steroids.

That last part is all that matters. It's not "just IRC", like many HNers claim. It is the most advanced evolution of IRC currently available. People use it because it can do anything they want and more, all in one very convenient package. Nobody cares about externalities like who owns it and what data it collects. It works - extremely well. And it's free!

[herbst]

It's just a slack clone. Like mattermost or many other free clones that are just as 'advanced' the only features discord has/had that other slack clones don't have is the gaming integration stuff.

[franga2000]

It has way more features than Slack and those others. Just the first things that pop into my head: up arrow to edit, code syntax highlighting, custom (animated) emotes, quick jump (like macos Spotlight), built-in Giphy search, the best and most reliable screen share and video calls (with voice channels, not just DMs/groups), unbeatable voice isolation and echo cancellation (better than Zoom!), very good built-in webhook support and likely the most powerful bot API of any platform.

Maybe some platforms have some of these features, but I'm pretty sure no one platform has even half. That's why Discord won.

[herbst]

Literally everything except video and voice was introduced with slack. Video and voice was horrible and only got really good when they already won the 'battle'. The API and Hooks were even borrowed from slack initially and only later extended.

I am not even a fan of slack and have no need for a group IM like this at all. However discord was everything but revolutionary.

[franga2000]

Nobody ever said any of the features features were revolutionary. I don't care what they were like in the early days, or even last week. Right now, at this moment, Discord has all of these features and the best implementations of most of them them at that. And again, it's free.

Like it or not (and fwiw, I don't - trusting most of my communications to a highly over-valued VC-funded startup sounds like a recipe for disaster), Discord is damn good software!