[drugstorecowboy]

Wow, his family as well huh? Why stop there, do the soldiers on the ground share no responsibility? What about his supporters in Russia? Strange how that type of "justice" seems to never lead to a more just world isn't it?

While perhaps understandable this is a frightening attitude.

[lostmsu]

Well, family takes advantage of their position illegally. His daughters both have no real achievements, but got cushy positions.

[EddieDante]

> Wow, his family as well huh?

Well, if we slip some polonium into Putin's morning vodka at least one of his relatives might get upset about it. Kinda like how Dubya was reputedly pissy because Saddam Hussein supposedly tried to have his dad whacked. Might as well Romanov the entire family, root and branch.

> Why stop there, do the soldiers on the ground share no responsibility?

Let's ask Tomoyuki Yamashita[0], the namesake of the "Yamashita standard". He was tried, convicted, and executed as the general responsible for atrocities committed by soldiers under his command.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomoyuki_Yamashita

Of course, he was merely a general, not one of the politicians, so let's also ask Hideki Tojo, former Japanese prime minister and also a convicted war criminal.

What I propose is a new standard: initiating a war should itself be considered a war crime, and punishable by execution. Any public official who could conceivably prevent the initiation of war, either by legal or illegal means, is also culpable.

> Strange how that type of "justice" seems to never lead to a more just world isn't it?

Did I say "justice"? My mistake; I meant vengeance. Preferably served cold and meticulously planned to minimize collateral damage -- but sometimes shit happens.

I'm not interested in your idea of justice. I'm sick of wars, and I want to see every last war pig fed into meat grinders -- preferably alive, feet first, and a millimeter at a time.

[Finnucane]

Live like a tsar, die like a tsar.

But more realistically, there will be no security for Russia's neighbors as long as Putin is in power. Which means that there will be no 'normal' for Russia as long as he is in power. And the people around him, at least some of them, can likely see that. It would not surprise me if there is already some movement in the Kremlin to force him out.