[donmcronald]

The biggest problem is being treated like a criminal rather than a customer. I’ve dealt in the small business space for a long time and we never deprive a user of their data even if we end up hating each other.

Western governments need to start acting on behalf of the people. Break up big tech and bring the hammer down on companies that usurp a persons lifelong data archive and refuse to give them a copy.

I have Google Workspace Legacy accounts, so my family has stayed with Google for far to long. That’s ending this month. Even if it sucks and we lose some data, purchases, etc. right now, the long term benefit of abandoning Google is better for everyone IMO.

[vintermann]

Criminals are at least told what the charges are, and theoretically given a venue to contest them.

It's easy to imagine police using the same excuse as Google: "we can't reveal exactly what you did wrong, since that would compromise our methods to catch criminals". If it wasn't for the fact that we aren't used to that "just being the way it is" in that case, we would probably shrug and accept it, too.